Colleagues, we are excited to announce the our fifth episode of the CPDWL Podcast Project where we feature library and information professionals who support and participate in professional development work.
Our guest is Dr. Mitsuhiro Oda has been involved in LIS education and CPD activities for 33 years. His current responsibilities as Professor of College of Community Studies (CCS), Aoyama Gakuin University (AGU) in Japan, relate to bringing up information professionals in charge of the succession of information resources in local communities. He has engaged in the development of library profession, as well as the revision of qualification program and curriculum for librarianship. And, in these two decades, he played a role of instructor / mentor to around one hundred and more training workshops and sessions for workplace learning.
As to research activities, by adopting practical and empirical approach, he has published more than twenty research articles on such topics as effective methods for workplace learning, efficiency of training program using product- sharing database system, and significance of integrating LIS education with continuing professional development. Since 2014, he has been an active president of Japan Society of Library and Information Science (JSLIS). And, for 6 years from 2013, he contributed to LIS education as a director of Division of Education for Library & Information Science (DELIS) under Japan Library Association (JLA)๏ผAlso, he has been a member of the Standing Committee in Section of Education and Training (SET) for two terms (2011-2019), IFLA.
This conversation was conducted in Japanese by Dr. Hiromi Kubo, an academic librarian from Fresno State, California, USA.
See here for the podcast:ย https://anchor.fm/ifla-cpdwl/episodes/CPDWL-Podcast-Project-Episode-5-Mitsuhiro-Oda-in-Japanese-eh985i/a-a2ptsk5
Transcript
[00:00:03] ใใใซใกใฏใใฌใคใขใณใใปใใณใงใใIFLA CPDWL ใฎใใใใญใฃในใใปใใญใธใงใฏใใธใใใใใใใฎใใญใธใงใฏใใงใฏใๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎๅ้ใงใๆ่ฝ่ฒๆใๆฏๆดใใใใๅๅ ใใใใใฆใใๆนใ ใซใ่ฉฑใไผบใฃใฆใใพใใ ๆฌๆฅใฎใฒในใใฏใใใฌใบใๅท็ซๅคงๅญฆใฎๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใงใใไน ไฟ่ฃ็พๅ ็ใจใCPDWLๅ็งไผใกใณใใผใง้ๅฑฑๅญฆ้ขๅคงๅญฆๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆๆๆใๆฅๆฌๅณๆธ้คจๅไผ็ไบ้ทใฎๅฐ็ฐๅ ๅฎๅ ็ใงใใๅฏพ่ซใฏไน ไฟ่ฃ็พๅ ็ใๆฅๆฌ่ชใง้ฒ่กใใพใใ
[00:00:41] IFLA CPDWL ใใใใญใฃในใใปใใญใธใงใฏใใธใใใใใใใฎใใญใธใงใฏใใงใฏใๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎๅ้ใงใๆ่ฝ่ฒๆใ่ทๅ็ ไฟฎใฎๅ็ปใปๆฏๆดใซ้ขใใๆนใ ใซใ่ฉฑใไผบใฃใฆใใพใใไปๅใฏใCPDWLๅ็งไผไผๅกใงใใใ้ๅฑฑๅญฆ้ขๅคงๅญฆๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆๆๆใใพใใๆฅๆฌๅณๆธ้คจๅไผ็ไบ้ทใงใใใใฃใใใใพใใๅฐ็ฐๅ ๅฎๅ ็ใซใ่ฉฑใไผบใใพใใ
[00:01:13] ๅฐ็ฐๅ ็ใใใใใใ้กใใใพใใ
[00:01:17] ใฏใใใใใใใ้กใใใพใใ
[00:01:19] ใพใๆๅใซใใ่ช่บซใไธ่จใง่จใ่กจใใจใใใฐใฉใใช่จ่ใงใใใใใ
[00:01:28] ็ฐกๅใช่ณชๅใงใฏใชใใจใใใใๅงใพใฃใใใจๆใฃใฆใพใใใ
[00:01:36] ๆฅๆฌ่ชใง่กจ็พใใใจใใ้ใณใใจใใ่จ่ใใใใ่ชๅใซ้ฉใใฆใใใฎใงใฏใชใใใจๆใฃใฆใใพใใ้ใณใจใใ่จ่ใซใฏใใใคใใฎๆๅณใใใใพใใใ้ใณใจใใใใใชๆๅณๅใใใใใพใใใฉใใใใใใใใใกใใฃใจใใใฃใใใใฆใใใจใใใใใชๆๅณๅใใงใ่ชๅใงใฏๆใฃใฆใใพใใ่ปใ้่ปขใใๆใใคใกใผใธใใฆใใใ ใใจใใใใใใใชใใใงใใใใใณใใซใๅใใจใใซใใใณใใซใฏใใใชใๅณใธๅใใใใใจใใฃใฆ๏ผใใใซ่ปใ๏ผๆฒใใใใใใชใใฆใๅใใซๅฐใไฝใๅใใชใใใฟใคใคใๅใใชใใฃใฆใใใใใใใ้จๅใ่ปใฎ้่ปขใงใฏ้ใณใจ่จใฃใฆใพใใใฉใใใใซ่ฟใใใฎใ่ชๅ่ช่บซใซๆใใฆใใพใใ
[00:02:25] ้ข็ฝใใงใใญใใใใใจใใใใใพใใๆฌกใฎ่ณชๅใงใใๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎๆๆใซใชใฃใใใฃใใใฏไฝใใใใพใใใงใใใใใ
[00:02:38] ไธ็ชๆๅใฏใๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใจใใ้ ๅใใๆ่ชๅ่ช่บซใๅงใใใใใฏใๅณๆธ้คจๅญฆใใจใใๅผใณๆนใงใใใใใฉใใใใใใฃใ้ ๅใใใใจใใใใจใซ้ฉใใใจใใใจใใใงใใใฎไธ็ใซ้ฃใณ่พผใใใฃใใใใใใพใใใใใใใชๅๅผทใฏใใพใใใใฉใใใฎใ่ฆใใใจใใใฎใๆฑบใใฆๅพๆใชๆนใงใฏใชใใฃใใฎใงใใใฎใ่ฆใใใใใฏใใใฎใฎ่ฆใๆนใ่ฆใใๆนใๅฐใชใใฆๆธใใใชใฃใฆใใใใใใชใกใใฃใจใใใ่ใๆนใใใพใใฆใใใฎ้ ๅใฏๅคๅใใใใใใจใซๅฝน็ซใค้ ๅใ ใใใชใจๆใฃใฆๅงใใใจใใใใจใงใใใใฎใใกใซๅคงๅญฆ้ขใซ่กใๆฉไผใใใฃใฆใๆๅกใฎๆนใซ่บซใ็ฝฎใใใจใใใตใใซๆใใซ่ณใใพใใใ
[00:03:46] ใจใฆใ้ข็ฝใใงใใใใใใ้ขจใซ่ใใใใจใใชใใฃใใฎใงใใจใฆใ่ๅณๆทฑใใไผบใใใพใใใ
[00:03:53] ใใใงๆฌกใฎ่ณชๅใงใใๅฐ็ฐๅ ็ใซใจใฃใฆใใๅฝ้็ใชๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใใงใใใจใใใใจใฏใฉใใใฃใใใจใๆๅณใใใฎใงใใใใใใพใใใใใใฎใ่ใใซไฝใๆ้ใฎ็ต้ใจๅ ฑใซๅคๅใใใใใพใใใใๆใใฆใใ ใใใ
[00:04:14] ๅฝ้็ใชใใจใใใตใใซ่ใใใจใใซไธ็ชใใใฑใฃใจๆตฎใใถใฎใฏใใใฏใใๅฝใซใใฃใฆไบบใ ใฎ่ใๆนใ็ๆดปใฎไปๆนใใใใใฃใใใฎใใใๅ จใ้ใฃใใใใใจใใใใจใงใไปใฎ่จ่ใง่จใใฐใๅคๆงๆงใใฟใใใชใจใใใๅผทใๆใใพใใใใใใใชๆนใ ใจIFLAใฎๆดปๅใชใฉใ้ใใฆ่ฉฑใใใใจใใซใใใใใใใใใฎใฎๆใๆนใใใใใ ใชใใฃใฆใใใตใใซใชใฃใฆใใใใใใใใใพใๅณๆธ้คจใฃใฆใใไธ็ใซใๅๆ ใใใฆใใฆใๅใใฉใคใใฉใชใผใๅณๆธ้คจใจใใฃใฆใใๆฅๆฌใฎใใฎใจใใใใใฎๅฝใฎใใฎใจใใพใฃใใ้ใฃใฆใใฃใฆใใใจใใใ่ฆๅใใฆใใใใใใใจใใไบใใซ็่งฃใใใจใใใฎใใๅฝ้็ใชๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใใฃใฆใใใจใใใซๆฌ ใใใชใใฎใใชใจใใใใใใชๆใๆนใจใใใพใใใใใ่ใใซ่ณใฃใฆใใพใใใจใใใใๅคๅใฏใใใพใใใใจใใใใใใชใใชใ้ญใ่ณชๅใ ใชใจๆใฃใใใงใใใใฉใใ๏ผๆตทๅคใฎๅณๆธ้คจใปๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใซ๏ผๆฅใใใฐๆฅใใใปใฉใ้ใซๅ ฑ้็นใ่ฆใใฆใใใจใใ้ข็ฝใใใใใพใใ
[00:05:35] ใใใชใซ้ใใใ ใฃใฆใใใตใใซๆใฃใฆใฆใใๅฎใฏใฉใใใงใคใชใใฃใฆใ้จๅใๆฐๅคใใใใจใใใ้ใใใฎใๅ ใซ่ฆใใฆใใใฎๅพใซไฝใๅ ฑ้ใชใใฎใ่ฆใใฆใใใใใใชใใจใใใฎ๏ผ็ชใฎ่ณชๅใฎไธญใงๆใใพใใใ
[00:05:57] ใชใใปใฉใใจใฆใๅ
ฑๆใใพใใใใใใจใใใใใพใใ
ใใใงใฏๆฌกใฎ่ณชๅใงใใCPDWLๅ็งไผใซ้ขใใใใใซใชใฃใ็ต็ทฏใๆใใฆใใ ใใใIFLAใซใฏใใใใใฎๅ็งไผใใใใจๆใใใงใใใฉใใใใฎไธญใงใ็นใซCPDWLใใ้ธใณใซใชใฃใ็็ฑใใใใใพใใใๆใใฆใใ ใใใ
[00:06:28] ่ๆฏใฏไบใคใใใพใใไธใคใฏCPDWLใฎๅงๅกใๅใใๅใซใEducation & Training ใฎใปใฏใทใงใณใฎๅงๅกใๅใใฆใใใพใใใใใฎใปใฏใทใงใณใงeducationใฏ่ชๅใฎ่ทๆฅญใจ็ตใณใคใใพใใใใใใใฏใใฎใพใพใใฎ้ใใชใใงใใใใใฌใผใใณใฐใจใใใใจใซ้ขใใฆใใใฏใใใกใใจไฝใ่ชๅใฎไธญใงใไฝ็ฝฎใฅใใๆนใใใใ ใใใชใใจใใใฎใไธใคใฎ่ๆฏใซใใใพใใใใใ่ใใๆใซใไปใฎIFLAใฎใปใฏใทใงใณใฎไธญใงใฏCPDWLใใใใ็ใใใใฎใงใฏใชใใใจใใใใจใงใ่ฒข็ฎใงใใใฐใจ่ใใฆๅๅ ใใใใจใ่ชใใใใ ใใใจใใใใจใซใชใใพใใใใไธใคใฏใ่ชๅใฎ็ ็ฉถใฎไธญใงใ่ชๅใฎ็ ็ฉถใๆ ๅ ฑใตใผใในใๆฅๆฌใ ใจใชใใกใฌใณในใตใผใในใซๅฝใใใฎใงใใใใใใใณใณใใใณในใ้ซใใใซใฏใใจใใ็ ็ฉถใใใๅๆฐๅนดไฝใใใฎๅฝขใงใใฃใฆใใพใใฆใใใใใฃใใใจใจใฎ็ตใณใคใใจใใใใจใใใไธใคใฏใใใพใใ
[00:07:58] ใชใใปใฉใไฝๅนดใใใCPDWLใซไฟใใฃใฆใใใฃใใใใพใใใ
[00:08:07] ใกใใฃใจๅณใใ่ณชๅใงใใใๅงๅกใซใชใฃใฆ2ๅนดใปใฉใ1ๅนดใจใใใใงๆฐใใใชใใพใใใใฉใIFLAใฎๅ็งไผใงใฏๆ้ใฎ่จฑใ้ใใฎใจใใใงใใใใงใใญใ3ๅนดใใใๅใใใงใใใใใIFLAใฎCPDWLใฎใธใซใใใจEducation & Training (Section) ใฎๆใซ็ฅใๅใใซใชใใใฃใใใใใใพใใฆใใใฎๅฝฑ้ฟใใพใใใใจใใใใจใงใใญใ
[00:08:48] ใชใใปใฉใใใใใจใใใใใพใใๆฌกใฎ่ณชๅใงใใใCPDWLใใใใใฏIFLAๅ จไฝใซใคใใฆใ็นใซๅฟใซๆฎใฃใฆใใใใชใใจใใใใใพใใใๆใใฆใใ ใใใ
[00:09:04] ใฏใใใกใใฃใจๅบใ่จ่ใงใใญใดในใใจใใใในใใจใใใๅฒๅญฆ็ใช็จ่ชใงใใใใใใฉใ็ใใ่ญฐ่ซใใฆใใจใใซใใกใใจใใใญใธใใฏใจใใใพใใใ่ซ็ใง่ญฐ่ซใใฆใใใใ ใใใฉใใใฒใจใใณ็ตใใใจ้ๅธธใซๆ ็ฑ็ใชใจใใใ็ฑๆ ็ใชใใใฎใใในใฎไธ็ใงใใใจใใ้ฒใใจใใใใใฎๅฏพๆฏใใๆฏๅนดใฉใใฎๅ ด้ขใงใใใใๅผทใๅฐ่ฑกใซๆฎใฃใฆใใพใใIFLAใงใฉใคใใฉใชใผใใขใผใจใๆ็ตๆฅใซใใใพใใใใฉใใใใใฃใใในใฎไธญใงไบคใใไผ่ฉฑใฏใใใใใใฎ่ๆฏใฎใใใใชๆนใใใใฃใใใใฎใง็ฑๆ ็ใช่ชใๅฃใงใ่ฉฑใซใชใใใ ใใใฉใใใใใปใใทใงใณใซใชใใจใใใใใฃใใจใใใใใฏใใใใใใฎ่ใๆนใ่ซ็็ใซใ่ชฌๆใใใใๅ ฑๅใใใใใฃใฆใใใใใใฎๅฏพๆฏใ้ข็ฝใใชใจใใใตใใซๆใใฆใใพใใ
[00:10:28] ้ข็ฝใใงใใญใใใใงใฏๆฌกใซใๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใจใใ่ทๆฅญใซใคใใฆๆใใฆใใใ ใใใใฎใงใใใใฉใใๅ ็ใซใจใฃใฆใๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใจใใ่ทๆฅญใงๆใ้ข็ฝใใจๆใใใใจใฏไฝใงใใใใใ
[00:10:46] ่ชๅใ้ขๅฟใๆใฃใฆใใๅณๆธ้คจใๅ ฌๅ ฑๅณๆธ้คจใจๅญฆๆ กๅณๆธ้คจใจใใใใจใใใใใงใใใใฉใใใใฏใไฝใใงใใไบบ้ใซๅฏพใใฆใใใใใฏๅญไพใใกใๅ ็ๆนใซๅฏพใใฆใใใใใชๆดปๅใใใฆใใใใใฎ็ๆดปใงใใฃใใๅญฆ็ฟใงใใฃใใใใใใใฃใใใจใๆฏใใฆใใใจใใใฎๅใณใใใใจใใใใใใใไธ็ช้ข็ฝใใจใใใใชใจใ
[00:11:20] ใชใใชใไปใฎไบบใๆฏใใฆใใใใฆใใใงๅใณใ่ชๅใใพใๅพใใใใจใใ่ทๆฅญใฏใชใใชใใชใใจๆใฃใฆใใใฎใงใใใใใใใใฃใ็นใง่ฒด้ใช่ทๆฅญใ ใชใจใใใฎ็นใๅณๆธ้คจๅกใซใจใฃใฆใฏๆใ้ข็ฝใใใฎใซใชใใใใใชใใใชใจใใพใใใชใฃใฆใปใใใชใจใใใตใใซๆใฃใฆใใพใใ
[00:11:50] ใใใงใใใญใไฝใใใใใจใซใใฃใฆๆ่ฌใใฆใใใใใใจใใพใ็ณงใซใชใใจใใใใใใชๆฐใใใพใใใใใงใฏๆฌกใฎ่ณชๅใงใใๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎ็ ็ฉถ่ ใซๅฏพใใฆใๅฐ้็่ฝๅใฎๅไธใซ้ขใใใขใใใคในใใญใฃใชใขใขใใใฎใใณใใใใใใพใใใๆใใฆใใใ ใใพใใใ
[00:12:18] ใใพใใขใใใคในใฎใใใชใใฎใฃใฆใงใใใจใฏๆใฃใฆใชใใใงใใใใใใงใใใใชใใจใใใใใชใฃใฆใใใฎใ็ณใไธใใใจใๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใฎๆนใซๅฏพใใฆใใใใใฏๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎ็ ็ฉถ่ ใซๅฏพใใฆๅใๆๅณๅใใซใชใใใงใใใใใไบใใ็่งฃใใพใใใใใจใใ่ฉฑใซใพใใฏใชใใจๆใใใงใใญใๆฅๆฌใฎไบๆ ใชใฎใใใใใพใใใใใชใใจใชใใใใใใๅใใใฆใใพใใใกใซใชใใใงใใญใ
[00:12:56] ๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใฎๆนใฏๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎ็ ็ฉถ่ ใฏ่ชๅใใกใจใฏไฝใ็ฐ่ณชใชใใฎใ้ใซๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎ็ ็ฉถ่ ใฎๆนใๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใจใฏไฝใไธ็ทใ็ปใใฆใใใใใชใใใใชใจใใใใใฃใฑใๅฐใชใใใใใใฎใงใใไบใใ็่งฃใใใใจใๅฟ ่ฆใใชใจใใใใจใใพใ็ฌฌไธใซๆใใพใใใใ ใใใ ใใ ใจๆฝ่ฑก็ใชใฎใงใๅณๆธ้คจๅธๆธใฎๆนใซใฏใใฏใใใใใใช็ ็ฉถใฃใฆใฉใใใใใจใชใฎใใชใจใใใใจใใใฃใจ็ฅใฃใฆใใใ ใใจใ่ช่บซใฎใญใฃใชใขใขใใใชใฉใซใใคใชใใใจๆใใพใใใๅณๆธ้คจๆ ๅ ฑๅญฆใฎ็ ็ฉถ่ ใฎๆนใฏใใใคใฆใฏๅณๆธ้คจใซใๅคใใฎๆนใชใฉใ็ตๆงใใใฃใใใใใงใใใฉใใ๏ผ็ ็ฉถ่ ใซ๏ผใชใใจใ ใใ ใ็้ ใซใชใฃใฆใใพใใฎใงใใใใงใฏใชใใฆใใใใๅณๆธ้คจใฎ็พๅ ดใซๅ ฅใ่พผใใง็ ็ฉถใจใใใใใชๅฎ่ทต็ใช็ ็ฉถใใใฃใจใใใจใใใฎใใชใใจใใใตใใซๅไบบ็ใซใฏๆใฃใฆใใพใใ
[00:14:10] ใใใงใใใญใใใฃใใใ้ใใ ใจๆใใพใใ
ใใใงใฏๆฌกใฎ่ณชๅใงใใๆฅๆฌๅณๆธ้คจๅไผใฎ็ไบ้ทใจใใๅฝน็ฎใง้่ฆใชใใจใใฒใจใคๆใใใจใใใฐใใใใฏใฉใฎใใใชใใจใงใใใใใ
[00:14:29] ใใใงใใญใ
[00:14:32] ใใใๆฅๆฌใฎไบๆ ใใใฃใฑใใใใใงใใใใใฏใๅณๆธ้คจๅกใฎๅฐ้่ทๅถๅบฆใใใฏใๅฐใใงใๆดๅใใใใจใซใคใชใใๆดปๅใใงใใใฐใชใจใใใฎใใไปใฎ่ชๅใฎๅคงใใชๅฝนๅฒใ ใจๆใฃใฆใใพใใใใ ใใใใ ใ่จใใจๅณๆธ้คจๅกใฎใใใ ใใฎ็ต็นใฎใใใซๆใฃใฆใใพใใใงใใใใใใงใฏใชใใฆใๅณๆธ้คจๅกใๆฏใใฆใใใๅณๆธ้คจๅกใฎๅฐ้่ทๆงใใใกใใจๆดใใใใจใซใใฃใฆใใใฎๅ ใซใใๆฅๆฌใฎใๆฅๆฌใง่จใใฐๆฅๆฌใฎไบบใ ใ่ฑใใช็ๆดปใใงใใใ็็ขบใชๆ ๅ ฑใๅพใฆ้ฉๅใชๅคๆญใใงใใใใใซใชใใจใใใใใใใฃใใใจใ็ฎๆใใฆใใใจใใใจใใใซใชใใพใใใกใใฃใจใใฃใใใ่จใๆนใใใงใใชใใฎใงใใใใใใชใใจใ่ใใฆใใพใใ
[00:15:29] ใชใใปใฉใใใฟใพใใใ่ณชๅใๅๅพใใฆใใพใใพใใใใใใฒใจใคใใใๅคงๅญฆๆๅกไปฅๅคใฎ่ทๆฅญใ็ฎๆใใจใใใฐใๅ ็ใฏใฉใใช่ทๆฅญใ้ธใใ ใงใใใใใ
[00:15:47] ้ฃใใ่ณชๅใ ใใ้ฃใฐใใฆใใใ ใใใฎใใจๆใฃใฆใใพใใพใใใใ
[00:15:58] ๆญฃ็ดใชใจใใๅคงๅญฆใฎๆๅกใ่พใใใใชใจๆใฃใใจใใฏไฝๅบฆใใใฃใฆใใใฎๆใซใฏใชใซใ่ปข่ทใงใใใฐใชใจๆใฃใใใงใใใใชใใชใใใใ้ฃใใใชใจๆใฃใฆใใพใใใใฉใใใใไปใใ่ฅ่ฟใฃใฆใใใชใใจใใงใใใใชใจใใใใจใชใใฐใไบบใใใพใๆฅใชใใจใใใซใพใ่กใฃใฆใฟใพใใใใใใใจ่ทๆฅญใจใใฆๆใ็ซใคใใฉใใใฏๅฅใชใใงใใใๅฑฑๅฒณ้ๅกใซใชใฃใฆใฟใใใชใจใใใตใใซใฏๆใฃใฆใใพใใๅฑฑๅฒณใฎๆกๅ ไบบใงใใญใใใใฏๅฑฑ็ปใใๅฅฝใใงใๆญฉใๅใใฎใๅฅฝใใ ใใใจใใใใจใซใ้ขไฟใใฆใใพใใใใฉใใญใ
[00:16:55] ๆฅฝใใใใงใใญใใพใๅ จใ้ใฃใๆใใงใ่ช็ถใฎไธญใงใ
[00:17:02] ้ใ้ใใพใใ
[00:17:06] ใงใไปใฏWiFiใใใใพใใฎใงใใใใใใใใใฃใฑใไบบใจ็นใใฃใฆใใพใใใจใซใชใใใใใใพใใใญใ
[00:17:16] ใใใงใใญใใฉใใธ่กใฃใฆใ็นใใใฎใฏใใใจใใใงใใใใใใกใใฃใจ็ ฉใใใใจใใใงใใใใพใใญใ
[00:17:28] ใงใฏๆๅพใซใๅ ็ใฎใฆใงใใตใคใใใฝใผใทใฃใซใกใใฃใขใชใฉใใใไปๆฅ่ดใใฆใใ ใใฃใฆใใ็ใใใๅฐ็ฐๅ ็ใฎใใจใใใฃใจ็ฅใๆนๆณใใใใใพใใใๆใใฆใใใ ใใพใใใ
[00:17:42] ๅฎใฏ่ชๅ่ช่บซใใขใใญใฐไบบ้ใชใฎใใใใใพใใใใ่ชๅใฎใฆใงใใตใคใใฏ้ใใฆใใพใใใใใฝใผใทใฃใซใกใใฃใขใฏไฝฟใใใใชใใจใใๅคใชๆๅฐใใใใพใใฆใใใใ่ฆใใฐใจใใใฎใฏใชใใฆใใใกใใๅคใๅ ใฎ็ดนไปใฎใใผใธใชใฉใฏใใใพใใใฉใใใฏใใใพใงไปไบใซ้ขไฟใใๆ ๅ ฑใใใชใใฎใงใใใไฝใใใ็ฅใใซใชใใใใจใใใใจใใใใฐใ็ดๆฅใกใผใซใงใ้ฃ็ตกใใ ใใใฎใไธ็ช่ฏใใใจๆใใพใใใใใใใใฃใจใใใฎใฏใไปๅนดใฏๆฎๅฟตใงใใใใฉใใๆฅๅนดไปฅ้IFLAใง็ดๆฅใไผใใใใจใใใฎใไธ็ชใใใฎใใใใใชใใจใใใตใใซๆใฃใฆใใพใใ
[00:18:42] ใใใงใใญใใใฃใฑใ็ดๆฅใ่ฉฑใใใฎใไธ็ชใงใใใญใ็งใใใๆใใพใใ
[00:18:51] ใใกใใจใ็ญใใงใใใซ็ณใ่จณใใใพใใใ
[00:18:55] ใจใใงใใชใใงใใ
[00:20:18] ไปๆฅใฏใๅฐ็ฐๅ ็ใๆฌๅฝใซใๅฟใใใจใใใใใใจใใใใใพใใใ
[00:20:24] ใใกใใใใใใใจใใใใใพใใใใใใใ่ดใใซใชใฃใฆใใ็ใใใจใพใIFLAใฎไผๅ ดใงใไผใใงใใใจๅฌใใใชใจใใใตใใซๆใฃใฆใใพใใ
[00:20:35] ใใใงใใญใใใใงใฏ็ใใใ่ดใใฆใใ ใใฃใฆใใใใจใใใใใพใใใ
English Transcript/Translation
[00:00:03] Hi, this is Raymond Pun, Welcome to the IFLA CPDWL Podcast Project. In this space, we talk with library and information professionals who support and participate in professional development work. Today’s guests are Dr. Hiromi Kubo, an academic librarian from Fresno State and Dr. Mitsuhiro Oda, CPDWL Section member, Professor of Library and Information Studies in Aoyama Gakuin University, and President of the Japan Library Association. Dr. Hiromi Kubo will be conducting the conversation in Japanese.
[00:00:41] Welcome to the IFLA CPDWL Podcast Project. In this space, we talk with library and information professionals who support and participate in professional development work. I am speaking with Dr. Mitsuhiro Oda, CPDWL Section member, Professor of Library and Information Studies in Aoyama Gakuin University, and President of the Japan Library Association.
[00:01:13] Nice to meet you, Dr. Oda.
[00:01:17] Yes, nice to meet you.
[00:01:19] First of all, if you had to describe yourself using only one word, what word would it be?
[00:01:28] I’m wondering if you started with a not-so-easy question.
[00:01:36] I think the word “Asobi (play)” is the right word for me to express in Japanese. The word “Asobi” in Japanese has several meanings, but besides the meaning of playing, it also means that there is a little bit of room (in the connecting parts of the machine, for example), which I think suits me well. Imagine that you are driving a car. When you turn the wheel to the right, the car doesn’t turn all of a sudden: the tires don’t move right away. This is the part of driving that we call “Asobiโ in Japanese, and I feel it’s similar to that in myself.
[00:02:25] It’s interesting! My next question is…. What compelled you to become a Professor of Library and Information Studies? How did you get started?
[00:02:38] First of all, I was surprised that such a field of library and information sciences, which was called “library science” when I started out, existed, and that’s how I got into this world. I studied a lot of things, but I was never very good at memorizing things, so I thought it would be easier to learn how to memorize things rather than trying to memorize them, which I admit was a bit of a cunning way of thinking. I thought this field would probably be useful for that kind of thing. Eventually, I had the opportunity to go to graduate school, and I came to the conclusion that I wanted to put myself in the position of a teacher.
[00:03:46] It’s very interesting. I hadn’t thought about the library and information science field in that way, so it was very interesting to hear from you.
[00:03:53] My next question. What does it mean to you to be an โinternational librarian”? Has that vision changed for you over the years?
[00:04:14] When I think of the word “international”, the first thing that comes to mind is the fact that people’s ways of thinking and living are completely different in each country. In today’s terms, I would call it “diversity”. When I talk to people through IFLA’s activities, I am reminded of the fact that there are different ways of understanding things. This is also reflected in the world of libraries, where even though we have the same library, there are differences between the libraries in Japan and those in other countries. I think that understanding each other is essential for an international librarian. That’s the way I see it. I thought that was a very insightful question, asking if there was any change in my thinking (of being an international librarian). It’s interesting to me that the more I come into contact with (libraries and librarians abroad), the more I see the similarities between them.
[00:05:35] Even though we may think we are so different; we realize that there are many aspects that are actually connected in some way. You see the differences first, and then you see the things you have in common. That’s what I felt in this question.
[00:05:57] I can relate to that very much. So, my next question is how you became involved in the CPDWL Section. I know there are many sections in IFLA, but what made you choose the CPDWL among them?
[00:06:28] There are two backgrounds. One is that prior to serving on CPDWL, I was in the Education and Training Section. While education is directly linked to my profession, I thought it would be better to position myself in some kind of a proper way with regard to training. When I thought about it, I thought I could make use of my understanding and contribute to the CPDWL Section, and I was accepted to participate in CPDWL. Another thing is that I have been doing research on how to improve competence in information services, or reference services in Japan, for the last 10 years or so. That connection to those things is another reason I got involved with CPDWL.
[00:07:58] I see. How long have you been involved in CPDWL?
[00:08:07] This is a bit of a tough question. I’ve been in the section for about two years, or a year or so, and I’m fairly new, but I’ve been on IFLA sections for as long as time permits. About three years ago, I had the opportunity to get to know Jill from CPDWL when I was in the Education & Training Section. She also inspired me to get involved with CPDWL.
[00:08:48] I see. Would you share with us a memorable moment youโve had in particular about CPDWL, or IFLA in general?
[00:09:04] There is an interesting aspect of IFLA that reminds me of two slightly technical, or philosophical terms, “logos” and “pathos.โ When IFLA members discuss in a formal session, they do so in a very logical way. But when the session is over, they speak in a very passionate or impassioned way, and from there the interaction takes place in a world of pathos. The contrast between these two modes has stuck with me every year. The conversations we have on the bus for the library tour on the last day of IFLA are very passionate, as people from various backgrounds talk about their experiences. However, when it comes to formal sessions, everyone explains and reports on their ideas logically rather than passionately. I find the contrast between the two to be interesting.
[00:10:28] That’s interesting. Now, I’d like to ask you to share your thoughts about the profession of librarianship. What are you most excited about in the library profession?
[00:10:46] Since my interests are in public libraries and school libraries, I find pleasure in supporting the lives and learning of people in the community, or children and teachers, through various activities. I think that’s the most interesting part of it.
[00:11:20] I don’t think there are many professions where you can support other people and get pleasure from it in return, so it’s a valuable profession in that respect. I think that’s the most interesting aspect for librarians, and that’s what I hope will be.
[00:11:50] Youโre right. I think itโs the kind of profession where the gratitude you receive for doing something for others is a source of sustenance for you. So that brings me to my next question. Do you have any advice or tips for librarians and LIS researchers regarding professional development?
[00:12:18] I don’t think I can give you much advice, but I would say to librarians and to LIS researchers alike, “Let’s understand each other.โ It may be a peculiar situation in Japan, but librarians and LIS researchers tend to be divided into different groups.
[00:12:56] Librarians tend to think of LIS researchers as somehow different from themselves, and conversely, LIS researchers are also distinct from librarians in more ways than one. So, I think the first thing we need to do is to understand each other. To be more specific, it would be helpful for librarians to learn more about various research topics and what it means to do research, which would help them to advance their own careers. For LIS researchers, there are many researchers who used to work at libraries, but once they become researchers, they are estranged from the field. Rather, I personally think it would be beneficial if there were more practical studies that would take place in the frontline of libraries.
[00:14:10] That’s right. I think you’re right. So, here’s my next question. If you had to name one important aspect of your role as president of the Japan Library Association, what would it be?
[00:14:29] Well, let me think.
[00:14:32] There are some circumstances that are unique to Japan, but I think my major role right now is to help improve the professional system for librarians as much as possible. It may sound like the organization is only for librarians, but it’s not. By supporting librarians and improving the professionalism of librarians, we aim to help the people of the local community, or the people of Japan in the case of JLA, to enrich their lives and to help them get accurate information and make appropriate decisions. It may be a bit too cool to say, but that’s what I’m thinking about.
[00:15:29] I see. Sorry, I asked the questions in the wrong order and skipped this one. If you were to pursue a career other than university faculty, what profession would you have chosen?
[00:15:47] I thought you skipped this question because it’s a difficult one.
[00:15:58] Honestly, there were times when I wanted to quit my job as a university professor, and I wished I could change my job in some way, but I thought that would be difficult to do. If I’m young again, I would try going to places where not many people visit. I don’t know if that would be a viable profession, but I would like to become a mountaineering expert, or a mountain guide. This is related to my love of mountain climbing and walking around.
[00:16:55] It sounds fun. Working in nature would be very different.
[00:17:02] It’d be completely different.
[00:17:06] But we have WIFI now, so maybe you’ll still be connected to people.
[00:17:16] Yeah, it’s nice to be connected everywhere you go, but it’s also a little bit annoying.
[00:17:28] Lastly, could you tell us if there are any ways for people listening today to learn more about you, such as your website, social media, etc.?
[00:17:42] Maybe I’m an analogue person myself, but I don’t have my own website and I have a weird streak of not wanting to use social media. Of course, there is my profile page on the website of the university I work for, but it’s only work-related information. If you’d like to know something, I think it’s best if you email me directly. And even better, although it’s not happening this year, it might be best to meet in person at IFLA next year or later.
[00:18:42] I think so, too, it’s best to meet and talk in person.
[00:18:51] I’m sorry I couldn’t answer your question well.
[00:18:55] You did great and it was a great conversation.
[00:20:18] Thank you so much for your time today, Dr. Oda.
[00:20:24] Thank you as well. I hope to see those who are listening to this today at IFLA.
[00:20:35] That’ll be great. Thank you all for listening.